Mais quasi 12.5 en 30 minutes, en revenant d'une blessure à la main, avec Jefferson dans l'équipe et surtout en étant sophomore, ca va je medis qu'il y a de la marge.
-- Flo a dit : Il allait pas se barrer quand meme. --
Ba...Si
Il est intelligent, ça fait plus de dix ans qu'il est dans la ligue, il sait qu'il n'aura pas la faute offensive. Pire, comme le dit Sammy, il bousille les chances infimes de l'obtenir en levant les bras. Si c'est pour faire un truc aussi con, autant s'écarter, au moins il aurait pas fini sur le cul.
-- Flo a dit : Et pourquoi il n'obtiendrait pas la faute ? Il est avant la ligne pointillee, les appuis sont poses avant qu'il arrive. Il allait pas se barrer quand meme. --
Il reste un spécialiste, my man Nick, en vieux renard, arrive à obtenir 1 ou 2 passages offensifs à chaque match en se plaçant intelligemment
-- Flo a dit : Et pourquoi il n'obtiendrait pas la faute ? Il est avant la ligne pointillee, les appuis sont poses avant qu'il arrive. Il allait pas se barrer quand meme. --
C'est vrai que c'est limite. D'un autre côté il a tellement les chocottes qu'il essaye d'arrêter Brewer avec ses bras, et ça c'est déjà moins bon pour avoir le passage en force
Tue, Dec 15
Minnesota was without Gomes (sprained left ankle) on Monday night against Utah.
Advice: The injury may explain why Gomes averaged 3.0 points in his last two games after averaging 20.3 in his previous six contests. It's unclear how long he'll be out.
Tue, Dec 15
F Ryan Gomes' streak of consecutive games played ended at 203 on Monday because of an ankle injured sustained in Saturday's loss at Sacramento. It was the NBA's seventh-longest active streak. An X-ray taken Saturday proved negative. He will have an MRI done in the Twin Cities on Tuesday.
Mon, Dec 14
Gomes (knee/ankle) will not play Monday against Utah, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports.
Recommendation: Tests showed no structural damage on his sprained left knee and twisted left ankle, but it sounds like he could miss a few games. Damien Wilkins will likely start at small forward while he's out.
(Rotowire.com)
Et pourquoi il n'obtiendrait pas la faute ?
Il est avant la ligne pointillee, les appuis sont poses avant qu'il arrive.
Il allait pas se barrer quand meme.
-- Flo a dit : Il monte très haut, c'est super fort, mais il y a passage en force. Ca devient difficile de faire des actions defensives dans cette league. --
En même temps, ce que fait Fisher, c'est pas vraiment une action défensive . Autant qu'il se pousse, parce que rester rester planter là bêtement , c'est inutile et il sait qu'il n'obtiendra pas la faute.
The T-Wolves were the first NBA team to suffer a one-point loss this season in a game in which they didn't score in the final two minutes. There were three such games throughout the league last season.
-- elbou a dit : ils ont voulu le perdre ce match ou quoi ? Egalité à grosso modo 2min de la fin, et Jefferson obtient 2 LF. Il loupe le 2e, ça donne +1 pour Minny, 96-95, mais Love prend le rebond offensif. 98-95 ? non, les Wolves n'en tirent pas profit. Derrière, Flynn fait un steal. 98-95 ? non, toujours pas. NO rate, puis tir de Flynn à 1'20. 98-95 ? non, toujours pas. Encore un tir raté pour NO, et Flynn shoote. 98-95 ? non, car il rate. Mais Gomes prend le rebond offensif. Et ? toujours 96-95, car il rate. Rebond pour Posey à 6sec, bonne faute de Brewer à 4sec pour couper l'action, et Paul récupère le ballon. 97-96 pour NO. --
Egalité à grosso modo 2min de la fin, et Jefferson obtient 2 LF. Il loupe le 2e, ça donne +1 pour Minny, 96-95, mais Love prend le rebond offensif. 98-95 ? non, les Wolves n'en tirent pas profit.
Derrière, Flynn fait un steal. 98-95 ? non, toujours pas. NO rate, puis tir de Flynn à 1'20. 98-95 ? non, toujours pas. Encore un tir raté pour NO, et Flynn shoote. 98-95 ? non, car il rate. Mais Gomes prend le rebond offensif. Et ? toujours 96-95, car il rate. Rebond pour Posey à 6sec, bonne faute de Brewer à 4sec pour couper l'action, et Paul récupère le ballon. 97-96 pour NO.
On va rester les cancres de l'Ouest mais il va nous donner une assise intérieure que l'on n'a jamais eu avec Gomes qui est tout sauf un 4.
Et il permettre a Big Al de se coltiner moins de prise a trois in the paint.
Jonny Flynn: Needs to Increase Tempo
RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com
Update: Flynn scored 18 points with six assists in 29 minutes in Friday’s loss to Phoenix but played fewer minutes than Ramon Sessions(notes). “He’s walking the ball up the floor too much for my liking,” head coach Kurt Rambis told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. “We need him to push the ball more. He’s allowing defenses too much time to settle in against us.”
Recommendation : Rambis hinted Sessions could replace him in the starting lineup but so far the T-Wolves are committed to giving Flynn on the job training at point guard and are hesitant to use both players in the same backcourt.
L13, Minny l'a déjà fait l'an dernier, mais n'a fait pire qu'une seule fois dans son histoire (16)
En tous cas le débat de début de saison entre fans des Nets et des Wolves pour savoir qui étaient les plus mauvais prend tout son sens. Et pas de jaloux: L13 pour les 2
13ème défaite d’affilée pour les Wolves
24 novembre 2009
Kurt Rambis a beau dire que son équipe progresse, elle enregistre une 13e défaite d’affilée ! Comme l’an passé, les Wolves font pitié à voir et on sent que la bagarre avec les Nets va être d’un haut niveau pour éviter la dernière place de la ligue.
Cette nuit, face à des Clippers maladroits (8/34 pour le trio Davis-Kaman-Butler), les coéquipiers d’Al Jefferson ont pourtant cru qu’ils allaient s’en sortir et arracher une victoire. Ils menaient même de 5 points dans le troisième quart-temps, profitant des “caviars” de Baron Davis (4 balles perdues).
Mais voilà, Mike Dunleavy rappelle son meneur All-Star sur le banc et il envoie Sebastian Telfair sur le parquet. Face à ses anciens coéquipiers, le cousin de Stephon Marbury est le factor X du match. Les Clippers passent devant au début du quatrième quart-temps et ils ne lâcheront plus rien.
A la finition, Al Thornton est libéré : 31 pts à 11/18 aux tirs. En face, Ryan Gomes tente le tout pour le tout. Son 3-points à une minute de la fin ramène Minnesota à deux petits points. Mais, ironie du sort, c’est Baron Davis qui anéantit leurs espoirs sur un lay-up à 8 secondes de la sirène. C’est son seul panier du match après neuf shoots manqués !
91-87 pour les Clippers et Rambis garde le même discours.
“On s’est un peu endormi dans le quatrième quart-temps et on a voulu répondre de manière individuelle. On en fait trop dans ces moments-là et c’est typique d’une équipe qui ne va pas bien. Mais j’ai confiance dans ce groupe. On progresse, et les victoires vont arriver”.
Young Timberwolves learning the hard way
By JON KRAWCZYNSKI, AP Sports Writer
Nov 12
MINNEAPOLIS (AP)—Al Jefferson(notes) heard all the talk about how the Minnesota Timberwolves and their fans were going to have to be patient while their ambitious rebuilding plan got off the ground.
He heard new president David Kahn say it would take at least two years before they were ready to start competing for a playoff spot.
He heard new coach Kurt Rambis say that all these young players had so much to learn before they started to challenge other teams in the powerful Western Conference.
Jefferson, the cornerstone of the new era for the Timberwolves, did not believe it then. But after the team dropped its eighth straight game on Wednesday night against Portland, the message finally hit home.
“I used to think when everybody used to say that—patience—it was just something they were saying so we didn’t have a big head. That it was just the right thing to say,” Jefferson said after a 107-84 loss to Portland. “But it’s really going to take some time. It is. We’ve got some young players. We’ve got a new system that we’re trying to learn.”
The Timberwolves opened the season with an inspiring rally to beat the New Jersey Nets, but have not won since. The messy stretch includes a 41-point loss to the struggling Golden State Warriors sandwiched between 23-point losses to the Trail Blazers.
“When you’ve got this many new faces, when you have the amount of young guys that we’re trying to give playing time, they just don’t have the experience, they don’t have the knowledge,” Rambis said. “It’s not they’re fault. It’s just not enough time.”
Kahn took over in May for longtime team architect Kevin McHale and immediately started with a massive remodeling of a franchise that has not been to the playoffs since 2004. He made more than 20 personnel moves this summer and put Rambis in charge of a team with 10 players that are 25 or younger.
So far this season, the team has looked every bit its age.
Turnovers, difficulty mastering the triangle offense, poor rotation on defense, all the hallmarks of a young team have been on display.
“That’s one thing about dealing with a young team, when your head gets down, it’s hard to pick it back up,” Jefferson said. “Right now, we’re letting teams hit us and we’re not hitting back. Most teams hit back. We’re getting hit and not even hitting back.”
The challenges have been many. Jefferson is not near the player he was before he tore the ACL in his right knee in February. He was averaging more than 23 points and 11 rebounds a game just before he was hurt in New Orleans last season, but has yet to regain the lift and quick-jump ability that he had before the injury.
And the team’s other top rebounder, Kevin Love(notes), is not expected to play until December after breaking his hand in the preseason.
So far, Rambis is taking everything in stride. He expected these struggles. He anticipated the growing pains.
“The only thing I didn’t foresee was Kevin breaking his hand,” Rambis said. “Everything else I understood was going to be a process. Everybody else is looking like, ‘Oh my goodness they don’t get it nine games into the season.’
“Whereas I’m looking at this as a one-, two-, three-year process for guys to really even sort of get a grasp on what we’re talking about where they feel comfortable with what we’re asking them to do.”
It looks all too familiar to Blazers coach Nate McMillan. During his first season in Portland in 2005, the Blazers won just 21 games as they rebuilt with young players. But it has been steady improvement since then, and now the deep and talented team is one of the up-and-comers in the West.
“When you’re developing and trying to win at the same time, it’s very difficult,” McMillan said. “Kurt is coming in and trying to get his system into place. It’s going to take some time. But it’s very difficult. You’ve got to be patient with it.”
That has been perhaps the hardest lesson of all for these young Timberwolves. They don’t want to hear about all the draft picks the team has next year or the all the available cap room that will make them major players in the free agent market of 2010.
“Nobody’s going to feel sorry for us,” guard Ramon Sessions(notes) said. “It’s not fun when you lose, no matter if you’re learning or what you’re doing. We’ve got to get wins, that’s all.”
For now, Rambis is not focusing on victories. He wants consistent effort and measured improvement. That’s it.
“It’s not going to happen in the first 10 games. It’s probably not going to happen in the first 45 games,” Rambis said. “It just comes over time.”
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