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Buyout de Daniels, ils jouent à quoi les Wolves cette saison?
C'est certainement le pire effectif que j'ai vu depuis que je suis la NBA... |
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| C'est TRES loin d'être une buse Pecherov il a jamais eu sa chance c'est tout ... |
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20pts 10reb pour Pecherov ou c'est une erreur de NBA.com? |
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Putain de sa race, on a gagné un match sans Big Al et Love!
Brewer 21pts, Flynn 18-6, Gomes 19-7.
Brewer serait-il enfin NBA ready?
Si oui ca change pas mal de choses pour l'an prochain,l'objectif serait alors de recruter un arriere et non un ailier. |
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Timberwolves forward Al Jefferson didn't miss the team's preseason game on Tuesday because of his Achilles injury.
While it's true that Jefferson is suffering from a sore Achilles tendon, he missed the game because of cold/flu-like symptoms.
Minnesota coach Kurt Rambis told the Star Tribune that he isn't concerned the Achilles will keep Jefferson out of the season opener. |
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| McHale consultant basket pour TNT. |
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| Pendant ce temps, Foye s'éclate bien aux Wizards. |
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-- jbtahiti a dit : On a plus qu'a attendre l'ouragan qui viendra dévaster l'arène des Wolves maintenant. --
Doucement, on a déjà eu un pont qui s'est effondré deux jours apres le trade de KG, on va attendre pour l'ouragan..... |
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-- Pharaon VIII a dit : -- BigTee a dit : L’ailier de Minnesota, Al Jefferson, sera absent pour une durée indéterminée en raison de tendinites récurrentes à un tendon d’Achille. Pffff....... -- L'ailier? --
J'ai plagié Léquipe, toujours très connaisseur niveau basket |
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| On a plus qu'a attendre l'ouragan qui viendra dévaster l'arène des Wolves maintenant. |
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-- Pharaon VIII a dit : -- BigTee a dit : L’ailier de Minnesota, Al Jefferson, sera absent pour une durée indéterminée en raison de tendinites récurrentes à un tendon d’Achille. Pffff....... -- L'ailier? --
Ben oui. Fort.
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-- BigTee a dit : L’ailier de Minnesota, Al Jefferson, sera absent pour une durée indéterminée en raison de tendinites récurrentes à un tendon d’Achille. Pffff....... --
L'ailier? |
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| Le record de 9 victoires des Sixers est en danger avec une telle équipe des Wolves... |
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L’ailier de Minnesota, Al Jefferson, sera absent pour une durée indéterminée en raison de tendinites récurrentes à un tendon d’Achille.
Pffff....... |
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| Ben regardes pas et puis c'est tout. |
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| Belle ouverture de saison avec un alléchant Minny-New Jersey |
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Timberwolves F Al Jefferson sat out the fourth quarter because of Achilles’ tendinitis.
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Oh le joli duel Flynn (19pts 5pds) vs Jennings (16pts 7pds)!
Victoire easy des Bucks, on est très mal avec Cardinal en 4.
Big Al n'est pas revenu encore a son top niveau aussi, ca joue bcp sur nos perfs.
Défintivement un match de merde, sauf pour Flynn qui a montré de belles choses.
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4eme année consécutive que notre sophomore se blesse gravement.
Flynn l'an prochain?!
Sinon , Rambis abandonne l'idée de Kahn de faire jouer 2 meneurs ensemble, en effet Flynn et Sessions n'ont pas partager une seule minute ensemble sur le terrain en 4 matchs de présaison.
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-- garcy22 a dit : et surtout le fait le plus important du match c'est la fracture de la main de Kevin Love!!! Il ne devrait revenir qu'en Décembre. C'est une grosse tuile pour les Wolves --
Putain mais cette équipe est maudite !!!!! Fait chier, ce joueur m'emballait bien |
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Y en a marre.....
RMC,Foye,Jefferson,Brewer,Love.....tous nos jeunes se blessent depuis 2-3 ans!!!
Et cette année on a pas de banc, qui va prendre sa place de titulaire maintenant que Smith est parti?
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| Ouais c est ce que je viens de lire juste après avoir ecrit mon post... Sérieux coup dur, il faut qu ils jouent ensemble pour progresser |
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et surtout le fait le plus important du match c'est la fracture de la main de Kevin Love!!!
Il ne devrait revenir qu'en Décembre. C'est une grosse tuile pour les Wolves |
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Encore un bon match de brewer qui semble vraiment avor eu un déclic cette intersaison. Bon cz empêche pas une nouvelle défaite mais en tt cas on se destine vers une rotation a 6 joueurs:
flynn en 1
session en 1/2
brewer en 2/3
gomes en 3/4
love en 4
al en 5
c est jeune et talentueux, mais est ce que ça peut prendre vraiment?! |
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Love va vraiment devenir un monstre aux rebonds, encore 13 hier en 24 minutes et nouveau double-double.
Bons matchs de Flynn et Sessions aussi mais défaite. |
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| Sessions, Flynn, Hart, Daniels... Sans parler de Rubio. |
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| On gagnera jamais 33 matchs avec ce roster. |
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Preview ESPN Hollinger
After a tumultuous offseason, the Kahn, Rambis era officially begins in Minnesota.
Offseason Moves
Minnesota made an unusual choice for McHale's replacement, opting for former Pacers exec David Kahn. He had been out of the league for several years but reportedly came highly recommended from commissioner David Stern. At any rate, if Kahn has even a rudimentary understanding of how the salary cap works, he'll be an upgrade on his predecessor. Besides, the T-Wolves weren't in a position to nab any big fish with this hire.
Not surprisingly, Kahn opted not to keep McHale around as head coach and instead selected former Lakers assistant Kurt Rambis. Rambis struggled in his first coaching gig with the Lakers in the 1998-99 lockout year, because he had to deal with a couple of very strong personalities (Kobe and Shaq) while cutting his coaching teeth. As a former big man and the Lakers' top defensive assistant, the hope is that he can get Love and Jefferson to defend the paint more effectively.
Otherwise, the T-Wolves largely shuffled money around in an effort to cut costs for the coming season and accumulate cap space -- they could have as much as $20 million next summer for Kahn to accelerate the rebuilding:
Traded Mike Miller and Randy Foye for Etan Thomas, Oleksiy Pecherov, Darius Songaila and the fifth overall pick.
Minnesota dropped Miller and Foye to secure the fifth overall pick, walking away without a single rotation player after follow-up moves to jettison Thomas and Songaila. Pecherov has struggled in his two pro seasons and is even worse defensively than Love and Jefferson, but he may have to play regularly given the lack of viable frontcourt options.
Drafted Ricky Rubio.
We won't know the return on this pick for several years, as Rubio opted to stay in Spain rather than lose money on an expensive buyout in his contract with his Spanish team. It could be three years before he appears in a T-Wolves uniform, but Minnesota doesn't seem flustered by the potential wait. Rubio is only 19 and certainly ranks among the most dynamic young guards in the game, but it remains to be seen if he'll ever be able to shoot and score at the pro level. With the other point guards on the roster, the prospect remains that Minnesota may trade Rubio before he ever plays a game in the Twin Cities.
Drafted Jonny Flynn, Wayne Ellington and Henk Norel; traded 18th pick to Denver for a future first-rounder.
Minnesota tried to offset the losses of Miller and Foye with two more draft picks in the backcourt. Flynn will be a major linchpin in the backcourt with or without Rubio. He also provides an immediate upgrade on what Telfair gave them a year go, while Ellington's deep shooting ability fills a glaring roster need. Norel is a 6-foot-11 Dutch project who will stay overseas for the foreseeable future.
The swap of the 18th pick could prove important in future years, though it's definitely a long-term play. Denver sent Minnesota a protected pick from Charlotte that could end up being a high lottery selection. It's top-12 protected in 2010, top-10 protected in 2011, top-8 protected in 2012, top-3 protected in 2013 and totally unprotected in 2014.
Traded Smith and Telfair to the Clippers for Quentin Richardson.
Although this deal added to the Wolves' cap hoard next summer, I didn't think it was a worthwhile sacrifice. Smith was one of their most effective players last season, but Minnesota dealt him to the Clippers just to eliminate Telfair's $2.7 million obligation in 2010-11. While this gives Minnesota some more wiggle room under next summer's cap, Smith could have alleviated the glaring lack of frontcourt depth that now seems poised to keep the Wolves from serious playoff contention.
Traded Richardson to Miami for Mark Blount.
This was a straight salary dump that saved them over $1 million because of the difference in the two contracts. Blount has no remaining value and may not a play a game for Minnesota.
Traded Etan Thomas to Oklahoma City for Damien Wilkins and Chucky Atkins.
Minnesota dumped some salary with this deal too, as they waived Atkins and saved the non-guaranteed portion of his contract. Acquiring Wilkins also made Minnesota's lack of quality wing players slightly less glaring. I repeat, slightly. He declined sharply a year ago and may not have much left in the tank.
Signed Ryan Hollins to a three-year, $7 million offer sheet.
This was Kahn's second-best move of the summer, as Dallas didn't match the offer and the T-Wolves snagged an athletic, mobile center to offset the weaknesses of Love and Jefferson. Hollins hasn't played much in Dallas and Charlotte, but he has come along far enough that he makes a decent backup center, especially since he can do things (trap, press, run) that the other bigs on this team can't.
Traded Songaila and Bobby Brown to New Orleans for Antonio Daniels.
Although the T-Wolves shed $4.8 million in salary for next season, this came at a grave cost to their frontcourt depth. Minnesota dumped Smith, Songaila and Thomas in a matter of weeks over the summer, potentially turning one of the league's deepest frontcourts into a major question mark.
However, the deal is a strong long-term play for Minnesota. The T-Wolves are poised to have nearly $20 million in cap room next summer and may be able to sign two second-tier free agents to expand their talent base.
Signed Ramon Sessions to a four-year, $16 million deal.
This was Kahn's best move, hands down -- the free-agent steal of the summer. Sessions is the most underrated player in the league, a smooth point guard who plays solid defense and can function as a 2 in small backcourts, and Minnesota was able to poach him from Milwaukee for a bargain price when the Bucks opted not to match. It's going to create a bit of a logjam in the backcourt if and when Rubio decides to come over from Spain, but at that point the T-Wolves could make a trade of one of their three point guards to fill other weaknesses.
Signed Sasha Pavlovic to a one-year, $1.5 million deal.
This was a solid move to fill out a weak wing rotation. While Pavlovic is a very poor offensive player, he's a solid defender. Plus, his lone offensive skill -- an ability to hit 3s -- should come in handy since Jefferson is likely to face frequent double-teams.
Biggest Strength: Rebounding
The one thing the T-Wolves have going for them is that they'll be able to play volleyball on the boards against smaller opponents. Jefferson and Love are space-eating big men who excel at the fundamentals of walling off their man and winning scrums for free balls, and it's difficult to match up against both of them at the same time. The T-Wolves were already a strong rebounding team a year ago, and if Jefferson and Love start for a full season, they look to get much better.
Additionally, they have some help. Both Ryan Gomes and Brewer rebound very well for wings, adding to Minnesota's glass strength, as does Sessions at the point. Meanwhile, the departure of Telfair and presumable demotion of Cardinal eliminates two of the league's least-effective rebounders from the rotation.
Biggest Weakness: Wings
The T-Wolves could be scary bad on the perimeter this season. Brewer has proved to be a horrific offensive player in his two pro seasons, and while he's developing his chops as a defensive stopper, he's also coming off a major knee injury that could compromise his quickness. Additionally, he'll likely have to play the 2 instead of his preferred 3 spot, because Gomes is way too slow to stick with most 2s … or most 3s, for that matter. Gomes has consistently performed better as a smallball 4, but that option seems mostly off the table with this year's roster.
Behind Brewer and Gomes is mostly air. Wilkins finished an awful season in Oklahoma City a year ago, and the T-Wolves will have to hope he can bounce back from it this year. Pavlovic wasn't much better, though at least he's a competent defender. Ellington is a good deep shooter -- pretty much the only one left on the roster, actually -- but his limitations in other areas are severe enough that he may have trouble gaining traction. Newcomer Daniels could also figure into the wing rotation, as Sessions and Flynn would seem to have the point under control, but Daniels has slipped noticeably the past two seasons and isn't suitable for more than spot duty.
Outlook
Quietly, Kahn has given the T-Wolves a lot of optimism for the future -- something that was in scarce supply as long as McHale stayed in charge. Minnesota owns the rights to a trio of exciting young point guards, and the Jefferson-Love combo up front looks like it could be a productive one of the next decade. Additionally, the upcoming cap room gives Minnesota its first opportunity in a decade to make a big free-agent push.
As for this year? Nobody is counting on them to do much. Two starters are returning from serious knee injuries, they have a glaring lack of quality wings, and the shortage of quickness and defensive ability in the frontcourt looms as a major impediment.
But if the core trio of Sessions, Jefferson and Love stay healthy, they're going to be a lot better than people realize. In particular, I don't think people fully understand how important the upgrade from Telfair to Sessions is -- based on my model, that exchange alone will be worth nine wins for the T-Wolves.
If Jefferson makes a strong recovery from the knee injury, Flynn provides an immediate sensation. More importantly, if everybody stays healthy, it's possible for the T-Wolves to sneak into the postseason. Possible, but not likely. The more probable scenario is that inexperience, poor wing play and a glaring lack of frontcourt depth trip them up as the season wears on, but thanks to the changes of the past 12 months, their time as a doormat appears to be drawing to a close.
Prediction: 33-49, 5th in Northwest Division, 13th in Western Conference.
Mark Blount
22 Corey Brewer
14 Brian Cardinal
Antonio Daniels
19 Wayne Ellington
10 Jonny Flynn
8 Ryan Gomes
17 Devin Green
6 Jason Hart
1 Ryan Hollins
25 Al Jefferson
42 Kevin Love
Henk Norel **
3 Aleksandar Pavlovic
4 Oleksiy Pecherov
55 Jared Reiner
Ricky Rubio ** (resté en Espagne)
7 Ramon Sessions
5 Mustafa Shakur
3 Damien Wilkins
En rouge : Nouveaux arrivants (draft, signatures, transferts...) |
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-- martin baratino a dit : -1-0 aussi, dommage qu'on se rencontre pas pour ce qui aurait été le sommet de notre saison ! --
Désolé mais je crois qu'on est trop forts pour vous, nous on battus les Bucks!!!!
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-- Anonyme a dit : 1-0.....ah nan c'est la preseason!
Oui mais c'est notre saison à nous les petits !
1-0 aussi, dommage qu'on se rencontre pas pour ce qui aurait été le sommet de notre saison !
Plus que trois semaines et je file en Andaloosie |
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Yep, mais au moins il provoque.
Par contre Brewer, quel raté ce joueur en NBA!
Il a progressé dans absiolument aucun domaine depuis son arrivée ici, et il n'a pas pris non plus un poids plus correct.
S'il se sort pas les doigts du .... je vois Pavlovic prendre ses minutes rapidement.
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et 0/5 au shoot  |
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1-0.....ah nan c'est la preseason!
Big Al et Love ont été ridiculement bons en meme pas 20 minutes (17-13 pour Love en 17 min), Flynn 14-7 avec comme a dit Larry 14 LF.
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| 14pts de Flynn dont ... 14 sur LFs (sur 15) |
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Sur blazersedge.com, un mec a fait une liste de souhaits pour la saison à venir des Blazers. Ca serait sympa qu'on fasse pareil pour les équipes dont on est fan et même pour celles que l'on déteste ou qui nous indiffèrent, pour peu qu'on trouve quelque chose de marrant à dire.
Je vais copier-coller ce message sur les topics des différentes équipes qui font parler, sur stopweb, et libre à vous de participer, ou pas... |
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Wolves Announce Basketball Operations Restructuring
September 26, 2009
The Minnesota Timberwolves today announced a restructuring of their basketball operations department. The changes in the front office reflect the organization's commitment to a greater emphasis on NBA player scouting.
Fred Hoiberg, who has served as Assistant General Manager for the past three seasons, has been named Vice President of Basketball Operations and will oversee the day-to-day operations of the department. He will report directly to David Kahn, Timberwolves President of Basketball Operations.
Jerry Sichting has been named the Director of Pro Player Personnel. Sichting will oversee the scouting of NBA players as the Timberwolves head into the summer of 2010 with significant salary cap room. He will also confer on a regular basis with head coach Kurt Rambis.
"Jerry's experience in both player personnel and on the bench makes him well suited to handle this important task for us," Kahn said. "This coming summer is obviously an important one for our franchise." Additionally, Rob Babcock has been named Director of Scouting/Administration, Zarko Durisic has been named Director of College and European Player Personnel and Amy Peterson has been named Director of Team Operations.
The Timberwolves will also move to a more regionalized approach to scouting this season, with scouts located in several NBA markets. These scouts will report on both college and pro talent, so that the team has a more integrated approach to player evaluation.
"By regionalizing our scouting and focusing on key markets, we should be able to accumulate more information in a more efficient, cost-effective manner," Kahn said. "These scouts also will be critical in our assessment of free agents and player acquisitions."
The Timberwolves regional scouts will be Milton Barnes, Dean Cooper, Pete Philo, Derek Pierce, J.T. Prada and Jim Stack. |
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The Minnesota Timberwolves announced that the team and Antonio Daniels have mutually agreed to part ways. Daniels and his agent, Tony Dutt, have the team's permission to pursue a trade, and have agreed to accept a buyout in the event that a trade cannot be consummated.
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on a que dalle a espérer cette saison, faut que Flynn soit pret pour l'an prochain.
pas forcément titulmaire mais au moins 30-35min/match.
pavlovic jamais vu jouer, donc je m'avancerai pas. |
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Flynn devrait bien être le meneur titulaire des le début de la saison.
Sessions passera, je pense, plus de temps poste 2. |
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Timberwolves general manager David Kahn will look to trade guard Antonio Daniels to a club that can assure him significant playing time.
Kahn, in a conversation with the Star Tribune, said that he will look to deal Daniels for a similar expiring contract, worth roughly $6.6 million.
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The Wolves on Tuesday waived veteran guard Chucky Atkins, agreeing to pay him $760,000 for a $3.48 million contract that was mostly non-guaranteed.
Mark Blount and his $7.96 million expiring contract are expected to be waived in the next week. |
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Avec Arenas qui fait son retour et veut planter 30pts par match ?
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-- BigTee a dit : Ce qui est sur c'est qu'on attend déjà beaucoup (trop) de Flynn. Si c'est un Foye bis notre projet sera remis en question. --
Sauf que Foye va vraiment exploser cette année à .... Washington. |
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-- BigTee a dit : -- rantanplan a dit : Seul hic : avec Love et Big Al en meme temps sur le terrain, Big Al va devoir jouer pivot toute l'année, ca risque pas d'etre un peu dur pour lui qui est plutot léger et pas tres grand? -- 23pts 11reb l'an passé a ce poste. Le vrai hic c'est justement l'état de santé de Big Al, déjà très fragile à son age. Mais s'il revient a 100% c'est du 24-12 guaranti cette année. --
J'ai peu de doutes sur sa capacité a aficher des grosses stats sur la saison. La question c'est surtout la capacité de la doublette a défendre contre des big men adverses de grande taille, et la capacité de Big Al a tenir le coup face a de vrais 5. |
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-- rantanplan a dit : Seul hic : avec Love et Big Al en meme temps sur le terrain, Big Al va devoir jouer pivot toute l'année, ca risque pas d'etre un peu dur pour lui qui est plutot léger et pas tres grand? --
23pts 11reb l'an passé a ce poste.
Le vrai hic c'est justement l'état de santé de Big Al, déjà très fragile à son age.
Mais s'il revient a 100% c'est du 24-12 guaranti cette année. |
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Ce qui est sur c'est qu'on attend déjà beaucoup (trop) de Flynn.
Si c'est un Foye bis notre projet sera remis en question. |
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